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and you're going to see india, its growth by 2030, will be like china is today. that will be that big, huge democracy. >> before anybody's freaking out and transferring their children into all mandarin-speaking schools, we are not going to be in dire straits. we are still going to be a big influence in the global landscape, right? >> absolutely. you're going -- absolutely, no question. but it's going to be, well, one of the quotes from the story is basically that the pacs americana will be over and you're going to see not that one power dominating everything, it's going to be middle classes around the world and more of a balanced power around the world. one thing that's interesting about this, you will have competition for jobs that will create middle classes. it will be pressure on western countries and their middle classes. because around the world, you've got hundreds of millions of people who will be coming up out of poverty, who will want to be in the middle class and have the technology to do those jobs that are we're doing now. >> there's a great read in "
and you're going to see india, its growth by 2030, will be like china is today. that will be that big, huge democracy. >> before anybody's freaking out and transferring their children into all mandarin-speaking schools, we are not going to be in dire straits. we are still going to be a big influence in the global landscape, right? >> absolutely. you're going -- absolutely, no question. but it's going to be, well, one of the quotes from the story is basically that the pacs americana...
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here to explain what china wants is the author of the coming collapse of china. i'm glad your year because this sounds really scary. you worried about this? aig, 4 billion. that is the biggest chinese takeover thus far. you worry that this is going to be a trend? >> it's certainly going to be. what's happening in china is that enterprises don't have the opportunities there because their problems and the chinese economy right now it's a pretty serious. these enterprises are going around the world buying assets because the returns are a lot better. so a lot of this activity does not concern me, but some of it does because you see in certain acquisitions like a one to three systems, the battery maker, the canadian oil sands producer. they're looking for technology. and some of this technology has defense applications, like this battery maker. they're buying this stuff up. that is something we have to be concerned about and should stop. tracy: do you worry -- we had an election. there are new people leading. you worry that the new leaders will make this even worse? >
here to explain what china wants is the author of the coming collapse of china. i'm glad your year because this sounds really scary. you worried about this? aig, 4 billion. that is the biggest chinese takeover thus far. you worry that this is going to be a trend? >> it's certainly going to be. what's happening in china is that enterprises don't have the opportunities there because their problems and the chinese economy right now it's a pretty serious. these enterprises are going around...
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: those predicts within 50 years china cou be premiere fincial economic giant, they have moved it to 20 years, and it is getting less and less time as we speak, so within 20 years, china eclipses us as the financial juggernaut of the world, carlos gutierrez, what do you make of that? >> they reduced growth rate to about 5% of out years, they must be making low assumions about u.s. growth rate, but this is a wake-up call we have to be thinking about the future, for some reason, the report talks about a governnnce gap. think we have a political crisis that stems from the fact that we can't seem to -- to look forward, we're always solvi yesterday's problem or today's crisis, but we have to start looking to the future, we have an immigration system that dates back to the '50s we're not openg new traderket. you know we're just -- our energy we could have energy independence 202 we should be running full speed aad. neil: ts adminisation said ey are addressing and looking at at future, and looking at sor and green technologies that chinese are buying up. including om rescued and supported b
: those predicts within 50 years china cou be premiere fincial economic giant, they have moved it to 20 years, and it is getting less and less time as we speak, so within 20 years, china eclipses us as the financial juggernaut of the world, carlos gutierrez, what do you make of that? >> they reduced growth rate to about 5% of out years, they must be making low assumions about u.s. growth rate, but this is a wake-up call we have to be thinking about the future, for some reason, the report...
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we were worried about central bank, liquidity, numbers okayed here, heating up in china. people thought europe was contained, and it feels that way now. people looking past the headlines whether it's the fiscal cliff or europe. i mean, there's a lot of doom day sayers out there, and it makes sense, but it seems like everything right now is contained, and the trade is up to the upside. david: right. liz mentioned the fed decision coming up, should be hearing about it tomorrow. what's the market expecting from the fed? in what way will they be excited or disappointed? >> well, i think the market, if you look at the options market, the flows into the ten year treasuries, it's implying 85 billion per month. the reason i say that is right now, deals, what, 165 #, if that was not the case, yields should be up 180, maybe 183 right now so all the flow right now is pointing to 85 or 90 billion per month. liz: okay. none of us is going to fight the tape here, larry. we'll talk to you in a moment when the s&p futures close, but in the meantime, going to the panel, daifd. david: sam,
we were worried about central bank, liquidity, numbers okayed here, heating up in china. people thought europe was contained, and it feels that way now. people looking past the headlines whether it's the fiscal cliff or europe. i mean, there's a lot of doom day sayers out there, and it makes sense, but it seems like everything right now is contained, and the trade is up to the upside. david: right. liz mentioned the fed decision coming up, should be hearing about it tomorrow. what's the market...
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they send the jobs over to china. no wonder he likes china so much. martha: i mean a lot of people have the problem with the way this jobs czar handled things in his own business and feel it is not reflective of somebody working really hard to encourage capitalism and to encourage a growing u.s. economy, bob? >> first of all, andrea got to get over the election. it is over, okay. you lost. you have another shot. these things happen. just calm down. it will be all right. now, by the way, immelt is exactly right. the chinese have been kicking our butts around for the last two decades economically. for what they have got, which is a communist-managed economiter doing a very good job of it. not something we want. not something we want of our allies but it is working and you can't argue with that. they have been growing at phenomenal rate. >> currency manipulation, human rights violations. one-child policy. martha: i get bob's point. what bob is saying. business people tend to look at things in, you know, in terms of efficiency. does it work. i think in ma
they send the jobs over to china. no wonder he likes china so much. martha: i mean a lot of people have the problem with the way this jobs czar handled things in his own business and feel it is not reflective of somebody working really hard to encourage capitalism and to encourage a growing u.s. economy, bob? >> first of all, andrea got to get over the election. it is over, okay. you lost. you have another shot. these things happen. just calm down. it will be all right. now, by the way,...
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jenna: china has a role in all of this as well? >> china has been backing both iran and north korea with regard to missiles and nukes. >> where can you point to as an example where sanctions have actually worked, when it comes to north korea or iran or anywhere? north korea is obviously still pursuing a very high-tech weapon. >> right. >> according to these reports they deny it. >> sure. >> to be fair when have sanctions really worked? worked5 and 2007 with regard to those financial sanctions i talked about. of course they also worked with south africa which is the prime example. they probably also worked with regard to yugoslavia when the country was going through some problems. sanctions can have an effect. not enough on their own but when you do that with other diplomacy, yeah, they can have a lot of effect on these regimes. iran right now is reeling because of the financial sanctions that the u.s. imposed on the central bank of iran. jenna: that is what many say. the big question do we see them test a nuclear weapon in the next
jenna: china has a role in all of this as well? >> china has been backing both iran and north korea with regard to missiles and nukes. >> where can you point to as an example where sanctions have actually worked, when it comes to north korea or iran or anywhere? north korea is obviously still pursuing a very high-tech weapon. >> right. >> according to these reports they deny it. >> sure. >> to be fair when have sanctions really worked? worked5 and 2007 with...
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we also have china that is slowing down. globally and also domestically there is not enough demand to keep the economy going and i would say the worst scenario of all -- i don't think it's going to happen, but probably by march we're going to see some real problems in the economy if nothing happens. ou and i agreee do go off the cliff, so to speak, on january 1st, that the negotiations to fix this problem would begin somewhere around january 2nd? >> probably the 8:00 a.m. the morning of january 2nd. they are going on right now. >> yes. >> there is probably a slightly better than 50/50 chance that there will be a deal before december 18th. assuming that we're close to a deal, i think it's going to happen right away and the democrats are going to be preparing legislation and it's going to be introduced right away, january 2nd, to make a middle class tax cut retroactive to january 1st. >> yes. exactly. and i think one of the striking things that we're not hearing right now are a stand your ground republicans in the house or in
we also have china that is slowing down. globally and also domestically there is not enough demand to keep the economy going and i would say the worst scenario of all -- i don't think it's going to happen, but probably by march we're going to see some real problems in the economy if nothing happens. ou and i agreee do go off the cliff, so to speak, on january 1st, that the negotiations to fix this problem would begin somewhere around january 2nd? >> probably the 8:00 a.m. the morning of...
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and china may be the number one economy soon. really? "varney & company" about to begin. >> right off the top, breaking news for you now. fox business learned that a group claimed to be aligned with terrorism is threatening to launch a massive attack against u.s. bank websites and made that threat in the fall and this is a new threat set to start this week, we hear. and a list of banks targeted includes j.p. morgan chase, bank of america, u.s. bancorp, pnc financial services and suntrust banks. more details when we've got them. the power and might of unions on display today and being tested. you will see huge protests at the state capital building in michigan where right to work legislation will be signed today. that means workers will be able to choose if they want to join the union. they will no longer be compelled to pay dues. here is the president speaking at a daimler factory in michigan yesterday. >> we do everything we can to encourage companies like daimler to keep investing in american workers. and by the way, what we shouldn't
and china may be the number one economy soon. really? "varney & company" about to begin. >> right off the top, breaking news for you now. fox business learned that a group claimed to be aligned with terrorism is threatening to launch a massive attack against u.s. bank websites and made that threat in the fall and this is a new threat set to start this week, we hear. and a list of banks targeted includes j.p. morgan chase, bank of america, u.s. bancorp, pnc financial services...
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china buying up u.s. companies on the cheap and we are paying interest on money we are borrowing from the communist company in the first place. a battery system is closed unless regalators stepped in. is it 123. >> it is a-123. >> gretchen: it went bankrupt. >> the judge holds an auction and a chinese company wins the auction and $256 million for a 123. china has the money. that's the bottom line. we have spent all of ours and china is buying up american assets like the battery company. the problem is, taxpayers have subicized a 123 and pumped in a grant and gave it to this outfit that is now bankrupt and china is picking up the pieces dirt cheap. the ball is in president obama's court. there is a committee that decides whether or not a foreign company can buy an american company. on what grounds do they wish to buy. is it in our national interest to sell to a chinese company. time geithner heads that committee and he will decide are we going to sell this dirt cheap to china or not. >> gretchen: oh, by th
china buying up u.s. companies on the cheap and we are paying interest on money we are borrowing from the communist company in the first place. a battery system is closed unless regalators stepped in. is it 123. >> it is a-123. >> gretchen: it went bankrupt. >> the judge holds an auction and a chinese company wins the auction and $256 million for a 123. china has the money. that's the bottom line. we have spent all of ours and china is buying up american assets like the...
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the trade gap with china did hit an all-time high. will fred industries is the latest offering special one-time payments. the company is boosting its quarterly dividend 20% to 16 and a half% a share payable on december 28. the website planning to streamline its operation and focus its resources on engagement innovation and customer satisfaction. that is the latest from the fox business network. giving you the power to prosper. ♪ with thinkorswim by td ameritrade. use the news links breaking stories with possible breakout stocks, options with potential opportunity, futures and forex with in-depth analysis. it an all-you-can-eat buffet for all things trading. thinkorswim by td ameritrade. it doesn't just deliver news. it's making news. trade commission free for 60 days, plus get up to $600 when you open an account. governor of getting it done. you know how to dance... with a deadline. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle... and go. you can even take a full-size or above, and still pa
the trade gap with china did hit an all-time high. will fred industries is the latest offering special one-time payments. the company is boosting its quarterly dividend 20% to 16 and a half% a share payable on december 28. the website planning to streamline its operation and focus its resources on engagement innovation and customer satisfaction. that is the latest from the fox business network. giving you the power to prosper. ♪ with thinkorswim by td ameritrade. use the news links breaking...
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you going to borrow it from china? alisyn: i mean, you know, nancy pelosi's taken a lot of heat for that famous saying, you have to pass the bill to figure out what's in the bill. but now that seems haunting, because the fact that even senators now are saying, whoa, whoa, whoa, slow down, we want some of these things repealed. >> 17 democrats in the senate including senator-elect elizabeth warren from massachusetts. 17 democrats in the senate with three weeks to go before this tax is imposed suddenly realize this is going to cost a lot of money, it's going to hurt my voter, it's going to hurt the device industry. please delay it. all of a sudden. alisyn: maybe they should have read it. >> but it was very long. alisyn: it was long. [laughter] you've got that right. stu varney, thanks so much for parsing all of this. >>> meanwhile, a violent political power struggle on the streets of one major u.s. ally, but as both sides protest in egypt, there's also a push to legitimize some hard-line islamist groups. so in three minu
you going to borrow it from china? alisyn: i mean, you know, nancy pelosi's taken a lot of heat for that famous saying, you have to pass the bill to figure out what's in the bill. but now that seems haunting, because the fact that even senators now are saying, whoa, whoa, whoa, slow down, we want some of these things repealed. >> 17 democrats in the senate including senator-elect elizabeth warren from massachusetts. 17 democrats in the senate with three weeks to go before this tax is...
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and china is ready to overtake the u.s. sooner than you think. first, forget the fiscal cliff, because the economy is coming back. americans are feeling more optimistic about 2013 and if we play our cards right, we're going to see a new economic renaissance. td ameritrade recently surveyed folks on their outlook for the new year. 43% say they're downright optimistic about the economy and believe we're headed for a rebound. 45% are feeling good about their own finances, but we already know that things are starting to get better. look, we're adding jobs every month, consumer debt continues to shrink. stock markets are up. longer term, though. america will reap the rewards of its domestic energy boom and more oil and gas gets extracted. the drop in the price of natural gas is already helping utilities and factories compete. that's creating more american jobs. and there is more. housing will be the golden lining to the economic cloud that is hanging over this country. mortgage rates are at historic low and should stay that way for the next two years
and china is ready to overtake the u.s. sooner than you think. first, forget the fiscal cliff, because the economy is coming back. americans are feeling more optimistic about 2013 and if we play our cards right, we're going to see a new economic renaissance. td ameritrade recently surveyed folks on their outlook for the new year. 43% say they're downright optimistic about the economy and believe we're headed for a rebound. 45% are feeling good about their own finances, but we already know that...